Wednesday, June 01, 2005

Ufonauts and human experimentation

I just learned that Nick Redfern has published a new book about Roswell, maintaining that the alleged alien bodies were those of Japanese POWs apparently used to pilot experimental aircraft. (My apologies to Nick if this summary isn't accurate, but I think I've recounted the central idea.)

True or not, I have a nagging sense that at least some of what Redfern has to say is disturbingly accurate. For example, Cold War historians and conspiracy enthusiasts alike are typically familiar with Project Paperclip, through which the US captured Nazi scientists to mastermind its weapons program. Conversely, relatively little is heard about the possible role of Nazi medical scientists, who are known to have conducted atrocious experiments on prisoners.

If an extension of this research were carried out in the American Southwest, how likely is it we'd know -- even now, over half a century later? Declassifying files about obsolete rocket technology is one thing; admitting to abhorrent human experimentation is quite another.





I've wondered since 1995 if the "alien" of the "alien autopsy" might be a surgically or genetically altered human. This sounds bizarre (not to mention seemingly beyond our bio-engineering state of the art*), but I'm not quite ready to rule it out.

We know that Nazi engineers were interested in -- and maybe even building -- disk-shaped "flying saucers" toward the end of the World War II; rumors indicate that some of these "planform" designs were at least partly operable. If any of these experimental craft posed greater-than-usual threats to human operators, project scientists may have found it desirable to use expendable pilots. Given the Nazis' harvest of biological research (dramatized in fiction such as Ira Levin's "The Boys from Brazil"), it's just possible that the first Nazi saucer-pilots were in some critical sense less than, or perhaps simply other than, human in the conventional meaning of the word.

It's probable that Allied forces would have seized on such a biotechnological feat as tenaciously as they exploited German engineering savvy. Which, of course, paves the way for some incredibly dark scenarios. Are some "aliens" engineered humans? Why do close-encounter witnesses sometimes describe tall, Germanic-looking "Blondes" in the midst of drone-like, cadaverous "Grays?" (Author W.A. Harbinson has a field day with such questions in his ultra-paranoid thrillers "Genesis" and "Inception," in which a loner scientist utilizes the Nazi war machine to create functioning flying saucers, complete with "alien" occupants.)

It's not my intention to stoke debate about underground Nazi bases, Tesla death-rays and the national security ramifications of MK-ULTRA. Embroiled as it is in a miasma of fantastic hunches, the question is deceptively simple: Could human experimentation help explain the alleged events at Roswell in 1947, and perhaps elsewhere in the annals of ufology?

*Especially if the autopsy originates from the late 40s, which is doubtful as the "exposure time" plaque visible on the operating room wall appears to date from the 1960s.

9 comments:

Professor Pan said...

Interesting speculation, but I think the Santilli "alien" autopsy has been conclusively proven as a hoax. Its behavior is exactly what you'd expect from a rubber model, and my initial gut reaction -- which hasn't changed since then -- is "fake!"

And the Roswell mess is so full of smoke and mirrors I've given up caring about it.

Kudos on the Strieber interview link. Nice find.

Mac said...

"Interesting speculation, but I think the Santilli "alien" autopsy has been conclusively proven as a hoax."

What am I missing? If it's been conclusively proven to be a hoax, who did it? How was it done? For that matter, when was it done?

The "rubber model" is essentially armchair opinion; there are lots of reasons that suggest it's an actual body, some quite subtle.

But Roswell sure is a mess, that's for sure.

W.M. Bear said...

Initially, I had the same reaction to the film as Prof Pan. I saw it on a video rental many years ago and did replay it and pause to scrutinize details. Despite this, I frankly do not remember a great deal about the film now except for my reaction. However, after reading your linked article, Mac, I'm not so sure any more. You make an excellent case for the fact that we may actually be witnessing a real dissection of a real body (of whatever provenance). I also like the connection with Nazi genetics experiments. (Dear Goddess, who knows what they were up to?) Anyway, your article makes me want to get the CD and have another go. Thanks too for the Strieber link.

Bsti said...

From what I understand about project Paperclip is that it was not the capture of Nazi scientists, but amnesty and relocation.

Mac said...

WMB--

The CDs I have aren't commercially available. They're research-quality, w/o sound, with bits of misc. footage that was never shown on TV. -- probably with good reason. They were created using the original film, now locked up in a vault in Germany, I think.

I think the AA is real, insofar as the "creature" is biological. Maybe the footage is disinformation, designed to destabilize UFO research . . . which might have been what the MJ-12 "documents" were supposed to do.

In any case, too many people have laughed it off as a hoax without a shred of evidence to back up their claims. And no one seems to know that there are *two* autopsies, one never shown on television because of its graphic nature.

JEFM said...

Nice post Mac.

But don't forget americans have their own history of medical experiments ... some quite nasty ones too.

Mac said...

"But don't forget americans have their own history of medical experiments ... some quite nasty ones too."

That they do, unfortunately.

Paul Kimball said...

Nothing, however, that compares with the "experiments" conducted by the Nazis.

Paul Kimball

W.M. Bear said...

Nothing, however, that compares with the "experiments" conducted by the Nazis.

I don't know -- MK Ultra and successive mind-control experimentation? To my way of thinking, fucking with (and up) someone's mind and, yes, soul, far exceeds in heinousness fucking with (and up) his or her body. Not that the Nazis weren't into mind control too -- big time! In fact, now that I think about it, it's certainly conceivable we got THAT idea from them too....